0.9.2 has a significant logic issue where it assumes player intimacy. If player resists Jezz completely and then does not sleep with Freja after battle, dialog with Jezz at the Witch's House in the forest with Val is completely wrong. The whole conversation with Jezz is premised upon player NOT resisting at the castle and then sleeping with Freja.
This was discovered on a solo Gwen path on a fresh game start.
[Edit to add: Additional logic error following lake date with sisters … If player immediately goes to bed and doesn't visit any cabins, following morning conversation with Jezz has her thanking player for the sample and player says that Val really stepped up to help. Totally broken game logic here.]
Which episodes are available if one subscribes on the patreon - I'm really interested in playing past episode 2. Are episodes 3 and 4 available yet to any tiers?
and everyone here on itch and patreon will get a beta invitation :) and if you purchased here, you'll get a complimentary refund for the steam version (if you want I mean) :)
Personally I liked the former name of this better Tainted..... At first I thought someone else was trying to steal your game until I looked in my library and saw tainted was not there anymore but this was lol
Tainted was a temporary title, and apparently after lots of testing we found that not many people understood the meaning - we found that only about 10% got it. The rest either didn't answer or answered the wrong definition.
Tainted = The state between pure and corrupt Funny thing was many said its the part between the penis and the testicles.........
Any rate, we tested many many names and Lilith Rising was the best overall. Both in meaning and popularity, and works very well.
I would like too support your game .But wright now i cant . but dont worry .I will .thank you for makeing this game and the time you and your team put in this really nice game
I am definitely willing to support and donate, but my question is how many episodes are going to be there for this game and how long in development for this game? I am currently supporting Oppai-Man for Fresh Women and I think his first episode came out roughly two years or three years ago, but he is currently working on episode six with the rest of the team. :D
Season 1 will have 4 episodes, ep2 was released in ver 1.5, and ep3 will be releasing very soon, then ep4 will be about 1 month later.
Season 2 will also have 6 episodes that are already written, and will be released at about 1 episode every 2 months or so.
Season 3 and 4 are planned and outlined but not written yet, they will have 6 episodes each.
but there might be a short break between seasons, as we need to focus on marketing and such, its a huge task, but its a passion project that I dreamed of doing for many years now.
Do you plan on releasing the later seasons as DLC or do you plan on releasing them for free for the public? I am a grad student, and I would want to support the best I can, but Idk if I would be able to pay monthly on Patreon or anything like that. I may donate to fundraisers or purchase those future episodes if they were released in a bundle or smth to help contribute for funding.
I'm disappointed in this one, not because it's bad per se, but because I really think it could have been so much better.
Plot-wise it's fairly boiler-plate fantasy, but there's nothing wrong with that. The visuals are where it shines: there has clearly been a lot of effort and love put into it. Seriously, even the UI looks clean and polished, and that is something I really appreciate as a marker of quality. The music and the sound add to the atmosphere well too.
But the writing is weak. None of the characters or their voices are distinct, and for me the dialogue comes across cringy and forced. I find the inner thoughts of the character to be even worse and very juvenile. It's all modern in a way that doesn't fit the setting or characters, but more than that it's awkward.
As an example, here some of the first few lines of the game:
(Oh pew... T'was only a nightmare... Every night the same dream...)
Good morning sunshine, what is all the ruckus about?
Whhaa? Your Grace, what are you do-
Come on, chop-chop, don't miss our breakfast!
(I kind of vaguely question why the Queen would be waking the Prince if the servant is right there...? Or at all? Part of what I mean by being modern in a way that doesn't fit the setting, but that's mostly beside the point.)
My thoughts on this example:
It starts out with what I think is a typo - pew instead of phew? I'm not even sure. Then it jumps to ye old "T'was" before immediately abandoning it for modern speech and a sentence with a comma splice. I've seen far worse attempts, but in all honesty I tap out when I do. It's not a great start for either the grammar or its content.
Stylistically it overuses a few things -- ellipses can be seen in the example above. There is also a pattern of a lot of onomatopoeic words like "haha", but they are often stretched out or emphasized, as are some other words to show length. Like "MmmmmmmuuhhahaHAHAHAHA", real example. These are techniques that are meant to be used sparingly, and they aren't.
Most stories would drop the attempt to represent a sound, and instead describe it. It is the reason why we don't have all dialogue written phonetically to show accent, for example: because it is harder to read and quickly becomes annoying.
Here is another example:
"Eeeee... The tournament!!! How exciting!!! Hey, how did you get in here?"
First: whiplash on the last line, which should probably have been split into another (my opinion, anyway). But more importantly, the punctuation again, this time in exclamation points. You might (might!) see three exclamation points in a written work. But you'd never see it in two sentences next to each other like that. Also, question marks should likewise not be repeated, but if you must the pattern again tends to be in threes.
I would suggest picking up a book and comparing the structure of the dialogue. I think you will quickly spot a lot of ways in which the writing deviates from convention, and I don't think it's in a good way.
I hope I am not being nit-picky in an unwelcome way, because I really do mean this as genuine constructive criticism, and I really do hope it helps. Because there is potential here... but I think it needs a good editing. I hope you can get it to the point where the game does justice to your ideas - I do like them - but right now I don't think it's there.
Moreover, it seems you commented only on the first few minutes of the game, rather then the full 2 episodes.
The purpose of the first episode (prologue) is to introduce a confused, bratty, frightened, kid, that has a lot of growing up to do. SO if you think the characters - especially the main one is juvenile - then I hit the spot, as slowly during the adventure he will grow up and improve - its his character arc. In the next version I've removed all the "older" dialogue to make it more flowing, Its a choice to make the story more relatable to modern audience.
The queen has a special role in the story, and it's on purpose that she pays more attention to you now, but it will be revealed later on.
Also the phonetic longer stretched words are on purpose as they illustrate natural dialogue which is very different then books, If anything you should compare it to dialogue in movies or even better anime.
The main part of the early releases prior to releasing on steam is to get this feedback - so the harsher and more blunt the better. But the best - is more examples with screenshots. And the outmost best - is joining discord and chatting about your ideas, if they are good they will be taking into consideration.
Look, I've been writing movies, TV, and games for many years now, so most of the choices here are on purpose - and I've taken into consideration it will rub the "grammar freaks" a bit wrong, but they also cringe on GoT or any other high quality show, movie or game, the idea is usually to hit the 99% that can have suspension of disbelieve in order to enjoy good entertainment, and let these type of "on purpose mistakes" slide to get a better feel for the characters and story.
Prologue is just to give a glimpse into the world prior to the story, and to reveal the plot - that's it, so even the intro to some of the main characters is very limited. as the story starts after the cabin in the woods scene - we'll get to meet the characters personally, and get to know them real well.
I wonder what you thought about Episode 2, where he shows little signs of growth, if you still feel that "juvenile" tone you mentioned. If you didn't download version 0.1.5, and give it a go.
I did actually play through to the end of it, though admittedly I did skip through some parts (precisely because I wanted to see how it developed later on). I did not notice a substantial change in style. The reason I chose to use that specific section as an example was actually because it was right at the beginning: they're usually the most important lines to set tone and hook in the player, but also anyone who read my comment would be able to see that section immediately and understand its context without accidentally spoiling anything later.
I will admit I am one of those "grammar freaks", so it bothers me more than some other people. But to me, with the way it's written, these "on purpose mistakes" look more like - well, mistakes. Make those choices if you want to, certainly, and more power to you if that's your vision. But you could try checking out a style guide specifically for fiction or something like that? Maybe it won't help, but I don't see how it could hurt.
But you take feedback well, even if it's not super positive, and that's promising, so I wish you all the best for your project either way.
I wonder how movies by Taika Waititi rub on you, Matrix 4, Thor Love and Thunder, or even Jojo Rabbit, he also makes tons of "mistakes" on purpose, with "juvenile" characters, Do they also bother you?
You shouldn't compare your new game, to a Director who has been making movies for 20 years... there's absolutely no comparison whatsoever, you're not Taiga Waititi...
Apples and oranges, there's no comparison at all, you're missing the point.
He's using the same technique, of making mistakes, and using super juvenile characters on purpose, and either letting them grow, or be the butt of a joke. I was just wondering how you feel about those? Unrelated to my game.
I think I'll just say this: brother, I write long winded and rambling reviews of "adult" games under the name joe ligma. There's a pretty strong chance I actually am some sort of cartoon or parody character myself.
Given this is a Ren'Py title, there's simply no reason not to offer Mac and Linux packages. It'll just work on those platforms. While I don't particularly mind dropping the game into Ren'Py to create a native Mac app, you're losing out on an audience who doesn't even know that this is possible and won't buy the game at all because of it.
Nice. And thanks for reading through my brain-addled typo. Yes, it was Mac that was missing. As for testing Linux, you can get free virtualization s/w such as VirtualBox and then one of the more popular Linux distros, also free. That said, the Linux guys are also more likely to build their own native app with Ren'Py. Cheers on a successful 2nd chapter.
Actually the Linux guys already made a version, But I can't support it so you'll need to find it on one of the other websites. BTW there's also a Sancho mod :D
If you play your cards right you can sleep with all of them :D
and if you play really really well, they will want you to do it. but its one of the more difficult paths, you have to chose the right options according to their unique personalities - just so you know.
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doesn't work on Mac
Any update regarding next version
PS love this game
Is there android version??
hi really like the game
I see it being advertised on Steam, but is there a demo?
looks very interesting. I hope for some maledom and prego options for later in the game for the girls would be awesome.
0.9.2 has a significant logic issue where it assumes player intimacy. If player resists Jezz completely and then does not sleep with Freja after battle, dialog with Jezz at the Witch's House in the forest with Val is completely wrong. The whole conversation with Jezz is premised upon player NOT resisting at the castle and then sleeping with Freja.
This was discovered on a solo Gwen path on a fresh game start.
[Edit to add: Additional logic error following lake date with sisters … If player immediately goes to bed and doesn't visit any cabins, following morning conversation with Jezz has her thanking player for the sample and player says that Val really stepped up to help. Totally broken game logic here.]
any femdom in this game and character name, please?
or dominating personality female character name
Which episodes are available if one subscribes on the patreon - I'm really interested in playing past episode 2. Are episodes 3 and 4 available yet to any tiers?
Right now ep2 is published,
ep3 is planned to release in about 2 weeks.
and ep4 will be about 3 weeks after that.
then we get ready for the steam release.
You can wishlist now actually on steam
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2424440/Lilith_Rising__Season_1/
and everyone here on itch and patreon will get a beta invitation :)
and if you purchased here, you'll get a complimentary refund for the steam version (if you want I mean) :)
okay, cool. already wishlisted on steam :)
Personally I liked the former name of this better Tainted..... At first I thought someone else was trying to steal your game until I looked in my library and saw tainted was not there anymore but this was lol
Tainted was a temporary title,
and apparently after lots of testing we found that not many people understood the meaning - we found that only about 10% got it.
The rest either didn't answer or answered the wrong definition.
Tainted = The state between pure and corrupt
Funny thing was many said its the part between the penis and the testicles.........
Any rate, we tested many many names and Lilith Rising was the best overall.
Both in meaning and popularity, and works very well.
I mean with this crowd should be surprised lol?
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I would like too support your game .But wright now i cant . but dont worry .I will .thank you for makeing this game and the time you and your team put in this really nice game
This game has been awesome so far. It reminds me of The Swordbearer in a way. 10/10
Full Playlist
That is great thanks,
You can use this link as well for support:
https://www.patreon.com/JubeiGames
and Discord:
https://discord.gg/8j3NkHD2qt
Ep3 is coming very soon.
You're welcome and thank you for the links. I'll be waiting for the next episode :)
Awesome, in the mean time please check steam, and add a nice wishlist if you can:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2424440/Lilith_Rising__Season_1/
ep3 is coming out very soon.
I am definitely willing to support and donate, but my question is how many episodes are going to be there for this game and how long in development for this game? I am currently supporting Oppai-Man for Fresh Women and I think his first episode came out roughly two years or three years ago, but he is currently working on episode six with the rest of the team. :D
Season 1 will have 4 episodes, ep2 was released in ver 1.5, and ep3 will be releasing very soon, then ep4 will be about 1 month later.
Season 2 will also have 6 episodes that are already written,
and will be released at about 1 episode every 2 months or so.
Season 3 and 4 are planned and outlined but not written yet, they will have 6 episodes each.
but there might be a short break between seasons, as we need to focus on marketing and such, its a huge task, but its a passion project that I dreamed of doing for many years now.
Do you plan on releasing the later seasons as DLC or do you plan on releasing them for free for the public? I am a grad student, and I would want to support the best I can, but Idk if I would be able to pay monthly on Patreon or anything like that. I may donate to fundraisers or purchase those future episodes if they were released in a bundle or smth to help contribute for funding.
Every season will be released as a bundle.
Thanks you for your support.
Join us on Discord and we can talk more there.
Does it run on joy play or do you plan an Android Version?
There is a plan for it in the future, there is now an unofficial version running around but I can't support it personally atm.
Once the game is out on the main platform (PC),
I'll start supporting, Mac, Linux and Android.
Ok thank you im looking forward to it 😊
will pregnancy be a future thing?
This story is fairly fast paced, which doesn't leaves enough time for pregnancy.
I'm disappointed in this one, not because it's bad per se, but because I really think it could have been so much better.
Plot-wise it's fairly boiler-plate fantasy, but there's nothing wrong with that. The visuals are where it shines: there has clearly been a lot of effort and love put into it. Seriously, even the UI looks clean and polished, and that is something I really appreciate as a marker of quality. The music and the sound add to the atmosphere well too.
But the writing is weak. None of the characters or their voices are distinct, and for me the dialogue comes across cringy and forced. I find the inner thoughts of the character to be even worse and very juvenile. It's all modern in a way that doesn't fit the setting or characters, but more than that it's awkward.
As an example, here some of the first few lines of the game:
(Oh pew... T'was only a nightmare... Every night the same dream...)
Good morning sunshine, what is all the ruckus about?
Whhaa? Your Grace, what are you do-
Come on, chop-chop, don't miss our breakfast!
(I kind of vaguely question why the Queen would be waking the Prince if the servant is right there...? Or at all? Part of what I mean by being modern in a way that doesn't fit the setting, but that's mostly beside the point.)
My thoughts on this example:
It starts out with what I think is a typo - pew instead of phew? I'm not even sure. Then it jumps to ye old "T'was" before immediately abandoning it for modern speech and a sentence with a comma splice. I've seen far worse attempts, but in all honesty I tap out when I do. It's not a great start for either the grammar or its content.
Stylistically it overuses a few things -- ellipses can be seen in the example above. There is also a pattern of a lot of onomatopoeic words like "haha", but they are often stretched out or emphasized, as are some other words to show length. Like "MmmmmmmuuhhahaHAHAHAHA", real example. These are techniques that are meant to be used sparingly, and they aren't.
Most stories would drop the attempt to represent a sound, and instead describe it. It is the reason why we don't have all dialogue written phonetically to show accent, for example: because it is harder to read and quickly becomes annoying.
Here is another example:
"Eeeee... The tournament!!! How exciting!!! Hey, how did you get in here?"
First: whiplash on the last line, which should probably have been split into another (my opinion, anyway). But more importantly, the punctuation again, this time in exclamation points. You might (might!) see three exclamation points in a written work. But you'd never see it in two sentences next to each other like that. Also, question marks should likewise not be repeated, but if you must the pattern again tends to be in threes.
I would suggest picking up a book and comparing the structure of the dialogue. I think you will quickly spot a lot of ways in which the writing deviates from convention, and I don't think it's in a good way.
I hope I am not being nit-picky in an unwelcome way, because I really do mean this as genuine constructive criticism, and I really do hope it helps. Because there is potential here... but I think it needs a good editing. I hope you can get it to the point where the game does justice to your ideas - I do like them - but right now I don't think it's there.
Thanks for your interest and feedback,
Moreover, it seems you commented only on the first few minutes of the game, rather then the full 2 episodes.
The purpose of the first episode (prologue) is to introduce a confused, bratty, frightened, kid, that has a lot of growing up to do. SO if you think the characters - especially the main one is juvenile - then I hit the spot, as slowly during the adventure he will grow up and improve - its his character arc.
In the next version I've removed all the "older" dialogue to make it more flowing, Its a choice to make the story more relatable to modern audience.
The queen has a special role in the story, and it's on purpose that she pays more attention to you now, but it will be revealed later on.
Also the phonetic longer stretched words are on purpose as they illustrate natural dialogue which is very different then books,
If anything you should compare it to dialogue in movies or even better anime.
The main part of the early releases prior to releasing on steam is to get this feedback - so the harsher and more blunt the better.
But the best - is more examples with screenshots. And the outmost best - is joining discord and chatting about your ideas, if they are good they will be taking into consideration.
Look, I've been writing movies, TV, and games for many years now, so most of the choices here are on purpose - and I've taken into consideration it will rub the "grammar freaks" a bit wrong, but they also cringe on GoT or any other high quality show, movie or game, the idea is usually to hit the 99% that can have suspension of disbelieve in order to enjoy good entertainment, and let these type of "on purpose mistakes" slide to get a better feel for the characters and story.
Prologue is just to give a glimpse into the world prior to the story, and to reveal the plot - that's it, so even the intro to some of the main characters is very limited.
as the story starts after the cabin in the woods scene - we'll get to meet the characters personally, and get to know them real well.
I wonder what you thought about Episode 2, where he shows little signs of growth, if you still feel that "juvenile" tone you mentioned.
If you didn't download version 0.1.5, and give it a go.
Hope to see you on Discord
Thanks again for your feedback, I've written these points and will take a look during the next polish round.
I did actually play through to the end of it, though admittedly I did skip through some parts (precisely because I wanted to see how it developed later on). I did not notice a substantial change in style. The reason I chose to use that specific section as an example was actually because it was right at the beginning: they're usually the most important lines to set tone and hook in the player, but also anyone who read my comment would be able to see that section immediately and understand its context without accidentally spoiling anything later.
I will admit I am one of those "grammar freaks", so it bothers me more than some other people. But to me, with the way it's written, these "on purpose mistakes" look more like - well, mistakes. Make those choices if you want to, certainly, and more power to you if that's your vision. But you could try checking out a style guide specifically for fiction or something like that? Maybe it won't help, but I don't see how it could hurt.
But you take feedback well, even if it's not super positive, and that's promising, so I wish you all the best for your project either way.
I wonder how movies by Taika Waititi rub on you,
Matrix 4, Thor Love and Thunder, or even Jojo Rabbit,
he also makes tons of "mistakes" on purpose, with "juvenile" characters,
Do they also bother you?
You shouldn't compare your new game, to a Director who has been making movies for 20 years... there's absolutely no comparison whatsoever, you're not Taiga Waititi...
Apples and oranges, there's no comparison at all, you're missing the point.
He's using the same technique, of making mistakes, and using super juvenile characters on purpose, and either letting them grow, or be the butt of a joke.
I was just wondering how you feel about those? Unrelated to my game.
Do they bother you as well?
I think I'll just say this: brother, I write long winded and rambling reviews of "adult" games under the name joe ligma. There's a pretty strong chance I actually am some sort of cartoon or parody character myself.
Given this is a Ren'Py title, there's simply no reason not to offer Mac and Linux packages. It'll just work on those platforms. While I don't particularly mind dropping the game into Ren'Py to create a native Mac app, you're losing out on an audience who doesn't even know that this is possible and won't buy the game at all because of it.
Added mac version!
Linux I can't test, so I can't support it - as of yet
Nice. And thanks for reading through my brain-addled typo. Yes, it was Mac that was missing. As for testing Linux, you can get free virtualization s/w such as VirtualBox and then one of the more popular Linux distros, also free. That said, the Linux guys are also more likely to build their own native app with Ren'Py.
Cheers on a successful 2nd chapter.
Actually the Linux guys already made a version,
But I can't support it so you'll need to find it on one of the other websites.
BTW there's also a Sancho mod :D
any NTR/sharing optinal or not. now og later
no NTR, no sharing,
There is a threesome option with 2 of the companions...
I'll let you figure out which.
great to hear about the no.
Hi dev is harem posible and pregnancy?
i was just about to ask the samething
If you play your cards right you can sleep with all of them :D
and if you play really really well, they will want you to do it.
but its one of the more difficult paths, you have to chose the right options according to their unique personalities - just so you know.
heck ya